this is actually my favorite post yet.whoever is keeping this blog is doing a great job. i really enjoyed this book and it was a great suprise to find it in the mail. it actually made me a little depressed for a while but since it forced me reconsider people and their motiviations, it was worth it.i have lent this to some friends and they also have enjoyed it but have mixed feelings towards Hannah. So, all in all, thanks for sending it, Penguin.
zbhdn, it is true that the situations were not that bad... apart. But can you imagine ALL that happening to you and not even having anyone to talk to that would listen? I think that's one of the points of the book. All of those sticking together in her mine... a snowball effect if you will.
She makes a good point becuz there was a point where i wanted to kill myself my situations were also not that bad but not having anyone to talk to or who can listen and try to understand it gets to you and you feel like the only person that can listen is death i don't know what made me come to my sences i think it was becuz i knew i can over come it if it doesn't kill me it only makes me stronger and i was a cutter too but i wish Hannah could have too. Such a beautiful and young girl she could have done alot.
zbhdn--how can you say her situation wasnt that bad?your not in her shoes you can never understand the pain some kids go through it may not seem "that bad" but hell she killed herself soo yea im guessing it was bad for her. even if is just a book you downplaying it is disrespectful
Many of you say that her reasons weren't "that bad" but in fact have you ever been in her sitution i can answer yes. "Silence is a girls loudest cry". It maybe that Hannah Bakers reasons werent that bad, but have you ever had everyone and really think about this everyone you trusted betray you, have you ever gone for help and be told to move on. Most readers only looked skin deep in her reasoning but you have to look deeper you have to see the real reasoning behind her reasons. Purpose and Reason are two different things, remember that. Hannah went for help and was rejected. Hannah didnt have anyone who understond. In the end everything mattered. When i picked up this book i didnt expect that i find something more hinded in the lines of Jay Ashers writting, i didnt expect I'd find the answer i was looking for. I didnt have anyone who understood until i meet Hannah Baker on one rainy October afternoon, Hannah Baker saved my life even though she is only but a character of Jay Ashers imagantion. Hannah gave me purpose when all i had was reason. Thank you Jay Asher & Hannah Baker for saving the last part of my parnets daughter.
Her reasons may "not have been that bad" but doesn't every little thing count? Doesn't it all play a bigger part then what we really give it credit for? Life is unexpected, and painful. Some of us can get through it, others can't. Hannah was, unforutnately unable to get through it. But her tale was inspiring, even for "A character in a book." For those who couldn't even get past "Oh her reasons weren't that bad" you failed at understanding the concept of the book. You failed at having a catharsis, and for that I pity you. I don't mean to sound like a bitch, and i'm sorry if i appear that way. But for some people, Hannah saved them, even if it was just a little part of them. Thanks to her, some parents got their daughter or son back, others got their friend or family members back. This story, Hannah's story, helped a lot of people. Whether or not Jay Asher meant to do that, he did and I'm sure people are very happy about that.
It had me thinking for days. And.. I don't know.. there's something about Hannah that makes it easy for us to relate to her. I mean, don't all us teenagers go through that? Atleast once? Well, I've never actually wanted to kill myself, but.. there has been a time where I felt sooo alone. And, Hannah has taught me that even the littlest things can affect someone. (:
Yeah, I agree with everyone-they weren't massive suicide things but altogether-12 little problems make one giant problem. Then, I suppose, one giant problem leads to, well, death in Hannah's case. In someone else's case it may lead to therapy or something but Hannah chose death and she can never go back on that choice. She will never be able to rewind. om gosh i cant help it I keep talking about her as if she was real! I know its a book but its such an amazing book it makes me wanna cry!
om gosh, Im crying! Ive read the book loads but ive never been on this website! My Mom thinks Ive hurt myself but its the book! It makes me cry every time! Hannah, thank you. You'e made me see reality. Praise the Lord! LOL
OM LIFE! Jay Asher's male?! Sorry Jay, don't find this offending if ur reading this I just thought u were a girl! Its just coz my friend is called Jay we call her Jay-Jay, it is an awesome name for both sex! Love it! Anyway, amazing book! I cant stop crying!Someone hand over the tissues, oh thx Mom! I love this book I love this book! Jay, thanks, you've shown some people reality for others youve shown a fairy tale! From looking at these comments, I think everybody takes this book in a different way-some find it emotional, some find it scary and others think its just like them!-but everybody loves the book! So thannks again Jay if you're reading this!) for writing such a heart-felt book (I know, its a bit cheesy but its true!) Thanks for listening! LOL (well reading) xx
i think this book makes an amazing point about every little action has a reaction and how you don't relize how one thing you do affects someone in so many different ways
This was truly an amazing book, and the writing was really good, and overall, I enjoyed it immensely. The only thing is... While reading it, I kept thinking that her situations weren't that bad. I probably sound like a mean, disgusting person saying this, but... I'm in similar situations with her, if not worse, and I cope. It's simple; knowing that no one cares should simply motivate you to find the one that does care. I don't mean to sound insensitive, or whatever, but people are becoming way too sensitive these days. A century or two ago, they had a reason to kill themselves, because of all the hard work, and mistreatment of kids, and wars, they had reasons. But, Hannah wasn't even being bullied, really. I understand her depression, but NOT her suicide. It would make sense for her to maybe run away, and start fresh somewhere else. Forgive me for saying this, but suicide is the stupidest way out of a problem.
OMG ANONYMOUS.. Have you SEEN HOW MEAN kids can be to eachother these days... and thesse days there are alot more means to e mean.. more than just writing rumors on the bathroom wall.. there is faceook, text messages, email, etc.. I wouldn't want to be a teen for nothing these days! They have it tough.. Back in the days.. life was simple.. yes we had to work hard.. but people were more respectful and life was a lot more simpler!
I don't understand how it can be said that Hannah wasn't being bullied. The who's hot/not list, the butt grabbing, the peeping tom incident---these are all types of bullying. Just because she wasn't pushed and shoved and had any of the "typical" bullying done to her, does not lessen the effect it had on her. It is a sad, sad commentary on today's youth that some people still consider it okay to act like this towards others.
Situations can seem that much worse if you're ALONE. To have to deal with so many things at once with no friends to help you deal with them, to seem left alone, abandoned.. can make you feel helpless which leads to hopeless. There's a time in most peoples life where things become a slippery slope. I WISH she had been caught before she hit the bottom.
OKay, I get that she felt it was the only choice but the thing with suicidal people is they aren't in their right mind when they consider it. A natural human instinct is to live, and they are denying that. So for someone who is suicidal to say they think its the only way and they get offended with people disagree, it's because the people who disagree aren't losing their minds. In the book ,Hannah could have reached out but she thought that little hints nobody could catch on to was askign for help. She allowed things to happen and even set things up so she could feel worse about herself, and she went against her instincts. The peeping tom incident, she should have reported him. NOT have a little lesbian rub down session in her room. The touching, she should have reported it, and shouldnt have brought it upon herself again. That time at the diner, he doesn't stop, SMACK HIM WITH A KETCHP BOTTLE! Not like nobody else didnt have an idea what was going on. She didnt confront people or ask for help, and she was being selfish. She just stood by and let people screw her over, and sometimes set it up. She was setting herself up for hurt and sadness. ANd the one person who she knew she could definitely trust, she pushed away. She never denied the things people said about her until she blackmailed them with tapes. For a person who went through a lot of elt downs, she shouldn't have been so trusting. The reason she had so many elt downs was because she went against her gut or set them up in a way. So people should really analyze the situation more instead of just going with their hearts. They should use their brain as well.
yah the thought of bieng one of those people who had to listen to her tapes makes me nautios. It is mad creepy fur shur, and that was just reading it. It would make for a kickass movie ! :)
this book is amazing, and surprisingly realistic. I can totally understand why Hannah thought about suicide all the time. She feels like there isn't a point in living - its just easier to give up than put up with all the crap. I think many people feel like that, but they are too scared to actually kill themselves. Maybe that is a reason why some people self harm? My best friend is still alive although she harms herself and has an rare life-threatening medical condition. She still fights on.
I loved this book,and a few of the situations happened in my school... rumors are cruel and they led to my best friend to start cutting, if anyone of us tried to broach the topic she would become defensive, sheltered,and I felt like I was losing her. Remember: everything you say has an effect,so try and make it good!
Even if this was just a book, i wish she hadnt done what she did. Thoguh, it makes me see everything differently now. This has to be the best book iv ever read.
marissa, I don't even know where to begin. I completely understand your point of view and even agree with some of it, but Hannah WAS trying to live. she give out signs and though they weren't big look-at-me signs, nobody listened or looked. And to some people, they would fight right back, but i know people who can't defend themselves because they feel like they would be drop to their level. do you know what i mean by that? here, if you don't this is what i mean: they are kind, their bullies are not. to some people (myself included at times), responding to their problems with violence is too much. And Marissa, if you think that the human brain is more likely want to live, you are right and wrong. The human brain tries to find an escape for us humans when the situation is bad. if you are, for whatever reason, in freezing water, your brain will make you numb, not remind you that you are about to die because of the lack of warmth. If you feel suicidal, your brain will naturally send out signs to others to help you stop feeling your emotional pain(yes, you can feel emotional pain. don't argue with me at that). if it realizes that no one is listening, then it will search other ways, other solutions that can hurt and harm, but if it calms you, it will allow it to happen. Don't believe me? here, let me tell you something that only one person in my family ever found out about.
recently, I was depressed about different things that to me felt like THE END. I felt like nothing was worth it, and the thought that, at the end, we are all going to die kept coming to me more and more. But get this, since i love reading, i have so many books about so many different topics (that is why i understand your point of view) but i have not read all of them. One morning, though, I woke up feeling worse than ever and i actually wanted to jump of something high right there at that moment. I turn around to see if i have something high enough and, instead, i found my self looking at a book's spine. no joke, this is what i read "DON'T DO IT; THIS BOOK IS USED TO SAVE LIVES." when i came closer, it turns out that the title really said "PRESIDENTS & STATES; THIS BOOK IS NOW ON SALE" now tell me, how did it go from don't do it to presidents & states? Today, I am a happy girl with perfect grades and a smile on my face. because of what i first read on that spine and what it turned out to be. my brain found a way to save me because others didn't see its signs. and i didn't go around hitting people or cursing them out. I just learned not to care and let things go. Marissa, suicidal people have NOTHING wrong with their brain, and ignoring their heart won't help stop their situations. enough said.
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this is actually my favorite post yet.whoever is keeping this blog is doing a great job. i really enjoyed this book and it was a great suprise to find it in the mail. it actually made me a little depressed for a while but since it forced me reconsider people and their motiviations, it was worth it.i have lent this to some friends and they also have enjoyed it but have mixed feelings towards Hannah. So, all in all, thanks for sending it, Penguin.
I agree with you, Nerdfighter.
I was also very surprised when I found this book in the mail, and I enjoyed it as well.
Oh dear Hannah..
WHY DID YOU KILL YOURSELF??
WHY???
WHY??
Hannah werent supposed to kill herself. The reasons werent that bad. And her situation isnt that depressing. But, amazing book. Love it.
I wish she didn't do what she did even if it is just a book
zbhdn, it is true that the situations were not that bad... apart. But can you imagine ALL that happening to you and not even having anyone to talk to that would listen? I think that's one of the points of the book. All of those sticking together in her mine... a snowball effect if you will.
She makes a good point becuz there was a point where i wanted to kill myself my situations were also not that bad but not having anyone to talk to or who can listen and try to understand it gets to you and you feel like the only person that can listen is death i don't know what made me come to my sences i think it was becuz i knew i can over come it if it doesn't kill me it only makes me stronger and i was a cutter too but i wish Hannah could have too. Such a beautiful and young girl she could have done alot.
zbhdn--how can you say her situation wasnt that bad?your not in her shoes you can never understand the pain some kids go through it may not seem "that bad" but hell she killed herself soo yea im guessing it was bad for her. even if is just a book you downplaying it is disrespectful
that was beautiful hannah. But Im sorry it was stolen. Im sorry about everything. im sorry they killed you. Im sorry.
Hey
I come from Germany and read thsi book in german. It was written like in the real life. I really could image that it happend.
Many of you say that her reasons weren't "that bad" but in fact have you ever been in her sitution i can answer yes. "Silence is a girls loudest cry". It maybe that Hannah Bakers reasons werent that bad, but have you ever had everyone and really think about this everyone you trusted betray you, have you ever gone for help and be told to move on. Most readers only looked skin deep in her reasoning but you have to look deeper you have to see the real reasoning behind her reasons. Purpose and Reason are two different things, remember that. Hannah went for help and was rejected. Hannah didnt have anyone who understond. In the end everything mattered. When i picked up this book i didnt expect that i find something more hinded in the lines of Jay Ashers writting, i didnt expect I'd find the answer i was looking for. I didnt have anyone who understood until i meet Hannah Baker on one rainy October afternoon, Hannah Baker saved my life even though she is only but a character of Jay Ashers imagantion. Hannah gave me purpose when all i had was reason. Thank you Jay Asher & Hannah Baker for saving the last part of my parnets daughter.
Her reasons may "not have been that bad" but doesn't every little thing count? Doesn't it all play a bigger part then what we really give it credit for? Life is unexpected, and painful. Some of us can get through it, others can't. Hannah was, unforutnately unable to get through it. But her tale was inspiring, even for "A character in a book." For those who couldn't even get past "Oh her reasons weren't that bad" you failed at understanding the concept of the book. You failed at having a catharsis, and for that I pity you. I don't mean to sound like a bitch, and i'm sorry if i appear that way. But for some people, Hannah saved them, even if it was just a little part of them. Thanks to her, some parents got their daughter or son back, others got their friend or family members back. This story, Hannah's story, helped a lot of people. Whether or not Jay Asher meant to do that, he did and I'm sure people are very happy about that.
This book is.... REALLY interesting.
It had me thinking for days.
And.. I don't know.. there's something about Hannah that makes it easy for us to relate to her. I mean, don't all us teenagers go through that? Atleast once?
Well, I've never actually wanted to kill myself, but.. there has been a time where I felt sooo alone. And, Hannah has taught me that even the littlest things can affect someone. (:
omg
Yeah, I agree with everyone-they weren't massive suicide things but altogether-12 little problems make one giant problem. Then, I suppose, one giant problem leads to, well, death in Hannah's case. In someone else's case it may lead to therapy or something but Hannah chose death and she can never go back on that choice. She will never be able to rewind. om gosh i cant help it I keep talking about her as if she was real! I know its a book but its such an amazing book it makes me wanna cry!
om gosh, Im crying! Ive read the book loads but ive never been on this website! My Mom thinks Ive hurt myself but its the book! It makes me cry every time! Hannah, thank you. You'e made me see reality. Praise the Lord! LOL
OM LIFE! Jay Asher's male?! Sorry Jay, don't find this offending if ur reading this I just thought u were a girl! Its just coz my friend is called Jay we call her Jay-Jay, it is an awesome name for both sex! Love it! Anyway, amazing book! I cant stop crying!Someone hand over the tissues, oh thx Mom! I love this book I love this book! Jay, thanks, you've shown some people reality for others youve shown a fairy tale! From looking at these comments, I think everybody takes this book in a different way-some find it emotional, some find it scary and others think its just like them!-but everybody loves the book! So thannks again Jay if you're reading this!) for writing such a heart-felt book (I know, its a bit cheesy but its true!) Thanks for listening! LOL (well reading) xx
i think this book makes an amazing point about every little action has a reaction and how you don't relize how one thing you do affects someone in so many different ways
This was truly an amazing book, and the writing was really good, and overall, I enjoyed it immensely. The only thing is... While reading it, I kept thinking that her situations weren't that bad. I probably sound like a mean, disgusting person saying this, but... I'm in similar situations with her, if not worse, and I cope. It's simple; knowing that no one cares should simply motivate you to find the one that does care.
I don't mean to sound insensitive, or whatever, but people are becoming way too sensitive these days. A century or two ago, they had a reason to kill themselves, because of all the hard work, and mistreatment of kids, and wars, they had reasons. But, Hannah wasn't even being bullied, really. I understand her depression, but NOT her suicide. It would make sense for her to maybe run away, and start fresh somewhere else. Forgive me for saying this, but suicide is the stupidest way out of a problem.
@anonymus agreed
OMG ANONYMOUS.. Have you SEEN HOW MEAN kids can be to eachother these days... and thesse days there are alot more means to e mean.. more than just writing rumors on the bathroom wall.. there is faceook, text messages, email, etc.. I wouldn't want to be a teen for nothing these days! They have it tough.. Back in the days.. life was simple.. yes we had to work hard.. but people were more respectful and life was a lot more simpler!
I don't understand how it can be said that Hannah wasn't being bullied. The who's hot/not list, the butt grabbing, the peeping tom incident---these are all types of bullying. Just because she wasn't pushed and shoved and had any of the "typical" bullying done to her, does not lessen the effect it had on her. It is a sad, sad commentary on today's youth that some people still consider it okay to act like this towards others.
Situations can seem that much worse if you're ALONE. To have to deal with so many things at once with no friends to help you deal with them, to seem left alone, abandoned.. can make you feel helpless which leads to hopeless. There's a time in most peoples life where things become a slippery slope. I WISH she had been caught before she hit the bottom.
OKay, I get that she felt it was the only choice but the thing with suicidal people is they aren't in their right mind when they consider it. A natural human instinct is to live, and they are denying that. So for someone who is suicidal to say they think its the only way and they get offended with people disagree, it's because the people who disagree aren't losing their minds. In the book ,Hannah could have reached out but she thought that little hints nobody could catch on to was askign for help. She allowed things to happen and even set things up so she could feel worse about herself, and she went against her instincts. The peeping tom incident, she should have reported him. NOT have a little lesbian rub down session in her room. The touching, she should have reported it, and shouldnt have brought it upon herself again. That time at the diner, he doesn't stop, SMACK HIM WITH A KETCHP BOTTLE! Not like nobody else didnt have an idea what was going on. She didnt confront people or ask for help, and she was being selfish. She just stood by and let people screw her over, and sometimes set it up. She was setting herself up for hurt and sadness. ANd the one person who she knew she could definitely trust, she pushed away. She never denied the things people said about her until she blackmailed them with tapes. For a person who went through a lot of elt downs, she shouldn't have been so trusting. The reason she had so many elt downs was because she went against her gut or set them up in a way. So people should really analyze the situation more instead of just going with their hearts. They should use their brain as well.
I LOVE THIS BOOK
it's sooooo adictive and it has awesome tapes to to along with it! The voices are soo creepy(:
yah the thought of bieng one of those people who had to listen to her tapes makes me nautios. It is mad creepy fur shur, and that was just reading it. It would make for a kickass movie ! :)
this book is amazing, and surprisingly realistic. I can totally understand why Hannah thought about suicide all the time. She feels like there isn't a point in living - its just easier to give up than put up with all the crap. I think many people feel like that, but they are too scared to actually kill themselves. Maybe that is a reason why some people self harm? My best friend is still alive although she harms herself and has an rare life-threatening medical condition. She still fights on.
I loved this book,and a few of the situations happened in my school... rumors are cruel and they led to my best friend to start cutting, if anyone of us tried to broach the topic she would become defensive, sheltered,and I felt like I was losing her.
Remember: everything you say has an effect,so try and make it good!
Even if this was just a book, i wish she hadnt done what she did. Thoguh, it makes me see everything differently now. This has to be the best book iv ever read.
marissa,
I don't even know where to begin. I completely understand your point of view and even agree with some of it, but Hannah WAS trying to live. she give out signs and though they weren't big look-at-me signs, nobody listened or looked. And to some people, they would fight right back, but i know people who can't defend themselves because they feel like they would be drop to their level. do you know what i mean by that? here, if you don't this is what i mean: they are kind, their bullies are not. to some people (myself included at times), responding to their problems with violence is too much. And Marissa, if you think that the human brain is more likely want to live, you are right and wrong. The human brain tries to find an escape for us humans when the situation is bad. if you are, for whatever reason, in freezing water, your brain will make you numb, not remind you that you are about to die because of the lack of warmth. If you feel suicidal, your brain will naturally send out signs to others to help you stop feeling your emotional pain(yes, you can feel emotional pain. don't argue with me at that). if it realizes that no one is listening, then it will search other ways, other solutions that can hurt and harm, but if it calms you, it will allow it to happen. Don't believe me?
here, let me tell you something that only one person in my family ever found out about.
recently, I was depressed about different things that to me felt like THE END. I felt like nothing was worth it, and the thought that, at the end, we are all going to die kept coming to me more and more. But get this, since i love reading, i have so many books about so many different topics (that is why i understand your point of view) but i have not read all of them. One morning, though, I woke up feeling worse than ever and i actually wanted to jump of something high right there at that moment. I turn around to see if i have something high enough and, instead, i found my self looking at a book's spine. no joke, this is what i read
"DON'T DO IT; THIS BOOK IS USED TO SAVE LIVES."
when i came closer, it turns out that the title really said "PRESIDENTS & STATES; THIS BOOK IS NOW ON SALE"
now tell me, how did it go from don't do it to presidents & states?
Today, I am a happy girl with perfect grades and a smile on my face. because of what i first read on that spine and what it turned out to be. my brain found a way to save me because others didn't see its signs. and i didn't go around hitting people or cursing them out. I just learned not to care and let things go. Marissa, suicidal people have NOTHING wrong with their brain, and ignoring their heart won't help stop their situations. enough said.
I completely disagree zbhdn her situation WAS bad. Don't judge someone else unless you've had to walk their path.
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