Monday, January 12, 2009

and if not, let me remind you.



31 comments:

mEgS said...

Justin you jerk. I hope it kills you inside. I hope it gives you nightmares. I hope she haunts your memories. Im not counting clay, but you and 11 other people killed her. And you started it.

ruthie said...

douche

Anonymous said...

stupid jerks

Ellie said...

mEgS, that is SO wrong. What you just said is totally incorrect. Sorry guys, but if u think about it then it isn't any of those people's faults at all. None of thos 12 people in the book caused Hannah's death. Yeah, they hurt her, some hurt her a lot but it was Hannha's choice. It was Hannah that killed herself. If she gave Clay the chance then he would've saved her but she didn't. She should've warned them.

Anonymous said...

Then you don't know how it feels. I've been in hannahs place. I've felt the pain and hurt. After a year in pure hell I made it out. Hannah didn't. I know she killed herself. I know it was her choice. But I know what it's like to die inside. It's like a lifeline. One person at a time, bit by bit, they cut it. Some of us can't hang on. They let us fall. And when it feels like you're dying, you stop caring and think I'm already dead. Let's finish it off so I can end the suffering. I'm much better now after two years, but sometimes I feel that echo of that broken heart. It breaks you. It changes you. People like me can pick the peices of themselves up and somehow slowly put themselves back together. The people like hannah... Once they are broken they are broken forever.

Ellie said...

Think about nothing. Just try to imagine no life. Now, think of your parents your family, your friends.. Would it be fair on them if you did kill yourself (not yu personally, people in generl). No. No it wouldnt. They wouold live in years of pain regretting the time they didnt spend with you. They would live the ret of their lives thinkking 'maybe it was because of that time i asked her to do the dishwasher?!' 'Maybe it was coz I tripped her over in yr 1.' It wouldnt be fair, just like it wasnt fair on Clay. C did nothing. He could've helped her if he had the chance. So, if you're ver feeling like Hannah. Tell someone. Give them a chance to know that your life is slipping away.

Ellie said...

Im so glad you made it after 2 yrs though, was that after or before you read the book (I know its probably nothing to do with the book, but woz just wonering) :D

Lift Jesus's name high! said...

I agree with both you, It depends how your life is. How people look at you. If I was in Ellie's position and life was going fine, I'd be thinking 'why do people even think of that?!' But if i was in anonymus's position I'd be thinking 'She has a point, but there's no point in living after what that guy just said to me :('. It is a real shame that there are people that are treated wth such little respect that they think of ending teir life. :( If only there weren't people like that...

isy said...

Suicide is a sin.
Sure. Hannah felt terrible but if she actually shoved away the jerks and got to know Clay he would help her. Also she should of talked to her family. Busy or not they would make time.

Suicide is NEVER an option.
You are murdering yourself. Really that is as bad as killing someone else.

AIDEN said...

anyone who says suicide is never an option has never felt horrible enough to have to consider it. ive been in hannahs place. ive been abused. no one spread rumors about me but ive had guys touch me with out my permission and think its okay or worse not care and just use it as a way to make you feel disgusting and it works Anonymous youre right once we're broken we're broken forever. i am broken and isy people like you only make the people like hannah the people like me want to get away from this earth even faster. i cant tell anyone close to me what has been done to me theyd never look at me the same so i tell you strangers. so yes in the end this is my choice but SAMUEL RAMOS,JOSH MCCALLISTER,JESSE JONES,JERI BRYANT(hi mom!)and ROBBY. you pushed me to it. i hope maybe i tell somebody and get help but i doubt it
-AIDEN

Anonymous said...

Suicide is mostly caused by bullying or heartbreaks. Bullying should be stopped seriously, people can help though. You can stand up to bullies or get help from someone. But if someone breaks your heart then there is no possible way of sticking it back together. I know it sounds cheesy and all that, but trust me, I'd know-I've been in many situations where I've thought about suicide-especialyl since both my parents passed away from a car crash. But, after I'd feel ashamed as I've 4 siblings to look after, 3 of them younger and my older was so close to my mom i bet she feels suicidal. But who knows where you'd be without life?! This will sound horrible but earth must be better than hell :s

Anonymous said...

I think that what Hannah did was wrong, but I will definitely not say that Justin and all the others were good when they were doing this. I think that Hannah did have a reason. But it was not worth it. She had her whole life to live.

Anonymous said...

Suicide isn't always due to heartbreak and bullying. Some occur from mental health issues. You don't know why you want to die, you just know you do.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for understanding my pov back in march. And we do think about our families. Heck, my family and friends probably helped save me at times. Once I did think about the big S, and I had a knive from the kitchen. I held it to my wrists, I have never cut before, but that day, most likely on the top 5 of the worst days ever, I wanted to do well. IT. I even thought about my funeral. But then a face flashed through my mind. A tiny innocent face that belonged to my little brother, who loved me to death, my parents who always showed nothing but support (but no matter how hard I tried to tell them something was wrong, they thought it was a "phase" and I was just in a angst mood) and my lovely beautiful best friends. They influenced me to put the kinve down, and fight to get out of the drowing black tar pit that was me. I fought depression all my own, recovering over the summer and finding the trurly great things in my life. When I went back to school, I was still shy angry and extremely distrustful of people I didn't know for over two years, but from that I improved and opened up. I now have so many friends it would take 5 sets of hands to count them, and I'm a happy confident person. People do look on the inside and if they find a bright happy person, they are drawn like moths. But a depressesd person sadly they get scared and avoid. Only a brave few can handle it. For those of you still fighting depression, just know that keep fighting no matter what, stay strong the pit has to end sometime, and know that even though you don't know me, know that I care about you, that even if you think people aren't there for you, know that if you died at least one person you know will miss you, and wonder is there something they could have done to stop you, so people DO care about you, you just have to find them. And you can get help from family and friends, and drs all you want, but it's YOU that has to save yourself in the end. Good luck, and stay strong.

Anonymous said...

Oh and that was before I read the book Ellie. Well technically it was in between because in the year one, that was when I was getting through the worst of the depression, before the book was out and in year two I wasn't as bad but still very valnrable and hurt very easily and angry ( mostly hateful, espically at one of the people who hurt me in the past, who I was forced to sit across in my one of my old classes whom of which shockingly even though I hated him with a passion cuz I have NEVER hated someone that much, I ended up forgiving him) the book came out and made me relise how in some cases I was like Hannah and how she told the story of so many depressed lost people to the world so more lives could be saved. The day I read the book, sometimes I had to put it down it hurt so bad cuz at times it was like she was telling my story, and when I finished it, I set it on my bed stared at it and started crying wishing I could save her and making a difference in my life. It is now three yrs and I am better then ever. My biggest hope for the book is helping non depressed so called normal people see into the mind of a person like Hannah and save their lives in some cases. Thank you Ellie, for understanding.

Anonymous said...

I have never felt that way but I think that suicide is never the answer.

Anonymous said...

People who are going through the option of suicide is because they are going through a phase or a test of life, its not there to purposely torture you its not there to purposely hate you or less have you feeling as though you were a mistake and wrong, its there because its testing you, its supposed to make you strong and grow out of it, i went through it, i had severe panic attack and anxiety from bullying experiences i felt that people hated me and didn't want me, so i thought that why am I here then, why should I, if I disgust people, I didn't do anything wrong to them, but then i got the courage from God knows where to tell my mom and dad what i was feeling,so i went to the pshychatrist and got help, its hard for people who are going through suicide to get help they feel its embarrasing or they don't want people to pity them or they just don't trust their help options because they feel that they wouldn't care they don't know how it feels, or that they probably would just make fun of them without saying anything, it makes them feel well pathetic, but there's no shame in getting help we all need it lets face it. I was one of the very few lucky ones that got myself together and got through it sometimes I would get flashes of pain from the experiences but that's normal because I learned to control it, I said to myself what's the worst that can happen? and it never came whenever i faced my fear, funny thinking about it whenever i had a problem or i had to do something that required of me to remember the past i would get scared VERY scared, but when i forced myself to actually go through it the worst never happened not ONCE! :). Motto of my story for people who go through stuff like me is that you got to face your fear whether you like or not to get through it all, you'll laugh at yourself for thinking of those ridiculous little things, they're not the problem the problem here is yourself your heart your mind your brain how you wire it to think that's what I learned from my past in the end i'm not hating on it anymore that it happened to me, i feel thankful because i can share it with someone else who feels the way i did, and help them live, grow, and blossom there's a WHOLE life out there you silly you! your problems and mistakes don't define you they refine you, you are in control you take the wheel here buddy, its your choice... just like what happened to hannah was hers, she could have had help she could have done great things and gone through with it to help someone else, if you TRULY think about it the greatest people that you see on tv who've had success all had problems!!! some suicidal, and etc. but they CHOSE to live and grow from it because they wanted to succeed damn it! I AM NO VICTIM, because I CHOSE to live and learn from it, LIFE IS ABOUT CHOICE, its about HOW YOU CHOSE TO LIVE IT!So live, prosper and grow!! I bow down to that,sure its a shame to what happened to hannah but it was her choice what's done is done, if you spended probably three minutes reading this message i have one thing to say to you thank you for choosing to live and to help people and to help yourself thank you and for those of you haters out there who bully people because of superiority diosrders and for entertainment KISS MY ASS!!!! cuz in the end you'll always be the loser and asking for help from the little people that you stomped on spat on and you'll be surprised that they still have the heart to help you! God bless and help us all, amen to my brothers and sisters... even the haters. Without you we wouldn't have come this far... so thank you in that respect.

Amber said...

if you havent been there you wouldnt understand to all you commenters saying oh it was her decision well ya ur rite its cuz this world id so fucked up and everyone in this world is different stronger or weaker and when ur weaker you cant deal with shit like eveyone else so fuck you to all those ppl who comment saying suicide is not the option. FREE COUNTRY FREE INDIVIDUALS if somone wants to end their life deal with it and shut the fuck up cause you cant do shit YOU arent that person! And this was posted by somone who is totally happy with life and wants to be alive, im just somone with a a STRONG opinion on ppl who get all opinionized by suicide. if your one of thse ppl honsetly i hope you enjoy hell. :) pceee

Starry*Nites said...
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min said...

sometimes, something has to happen in order for something else to change. just putting that out there.

Sunshine said...

Suicide always has a reason.. It might be because f bullying, heartbreak, family problems. If you have never felt that way then you are like hiding your real self from people. I have been tere several times, but I talked to someone I trust met someone and coukd bit be happier. Suicide is not a sin. If you really think about it talk to someone talk to someone you trust a counselor anyone. Just try to live before you do commit suicide if you do,,

Anonymous said...

last year i wanted everything to stop just for a because no one asked me to the dance. sure, I went a little overboard. but felling like you don't matter to anyone but you'r parents, gosh i wish i could be more like hannah to have the courage she has & to actually say something to the people that hurt me. even though she's dead she still did something about it. so people who say they've been in Hannah's place take a hard look at your self get a reality check then think have i really been in Hannah's place?

Anomynous Ninja said...

Douchebags

Anonymous said...

Nobody should have to feel that much pain and guilt in their life..dragging people down and making them feel as if they dont wanna live anymore..its not what we live for.

Anonymous said...

I feel like it's not my place to say anything - someone close to you should help you. I have never been in a place like one that you are in now but just know...you can find help in the weirdest places. Trust me. I feel like saying something to you because you are Hannah. You've been through some of the same experiences and You have a list of people that pushed you this far. Let me ask you something. If You don't get help and you do end up like Hannah...you'll never know if your clay was there all along. Hannah didn't. She didn't know until the very end when her mind was made up. Your clay is out there - everyones is. You just need to find him.

Anonymous said...

It's been almost a year since you posted this comment and I hope you've changed your point of view because you can't just post something like that! You think you're Sooo much better than everyone else well guess what! Wake up. Start noticing things around you! Some people that posted comments on this page Are asking for help And others are trying to give it to them. If someone says suicide isn't an option it's because that person cares about people and wants everyone to be happy and live like normal people - not sad depressed suicidal ones. If you can't see that then you must be messed up.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you!
Everyone looks at things differently, and we should all respect that. And it's not entirely Justin and everyone else's fault. Hannah made the decision to commit suicide, not them. But still... JUSTIN, YOU MAKE ME WANNA KILL YOU. :)

SarahFrancesYoung said...

Erm, why is everyone getting so worked up...this is a fictional work.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter if it's fictional work. The problem behind the book is very real and should be taken seriously. You don't know the problems some people have, you don't know what's going on in their head. You should know I've been thinking about doing IT but some of what people said helped me.

Anonymous said...

I don't care if the story if real or not... 13 reasons why saved me from myself... it changed my life for the better... and if Hannah Baker IS real, god PLEASE bless her soul and all the other suicides... thank you Hannah...

Anonymous said...

The thing is.. Just by thinking of doing suicide, you know that yourself or somebody is needing help. It needs help to be hugged, the screams to be heard, the eyes to see the realizations of 'wrong' things. Suicide can be done by so many ways.
For those who is fine, please be open and do not push those who need help. It could mean the whole life for them.
Sometimes, not everytime you see things makes you understand. Sometimes you have to listen and pay attention. All you have to do is started by the simplest thing.... listen... X